While we're on the subject, Bill, in the Ascent I noticed an unusual number of folks (not in the race) coming down the hill. At the bottom I chalked up to the growing popularity of the incline after all the recent hype about it. But it didn't seem to dwindle any really until tree line. It's really not a huge deal but did cause mild frustration for me at times and I observed great frustration in some. Anyway, just kinda wondering.